تبادلۂ خیال:چوہدری شجاعت حسین

Including allegations in the bio of people in power that are unproven in a court of law cannot be considered unbiased. Wikipedia charter does not allow "original research." For peolpe in power, such stuff is noramlly not included in wiki, wheteher true or not. You won't find in en.wikipedia allegations that Tony had a hand in the suicide-murder of Dr. David Kelly. --Urdutext 23:36, 10 جولا‎ئی 2006 (UTC)

I am not putting any kind of allegations and it has nothing to do with so-called power. I belong to Madina Syedan that's why I know what is general consensus there and what people are saying and that's what I have written. This incident of bloodshed (that I have written) has a long and complex history which, if investigated, will connect all strings to Mr. Shujat Hussain. There is a certain Urdu website which began a huge propaganda campaign against Madina Syedan following the incident. I have forgot the address. As soon as I remember it, I will add it here. That website is enough to connect Shujat Hussain with the said incident.

حیدر 01:42, 11 جولا‎ئی 2006 (UTC)

This "news item" does not belong in the biography. Wikipedia can only allow mainstream news sources. In this case, these would be the main newspapers, e.g., Dawn, News, Nation, Jang, Nawa-i-waqt. Any "conspiracy" website won't do. Personal knowledge comes under "original research" and as such is not allowed by wikipedia policy. There are other avenues on the web where this may be acceptable but here we must abide by the wikipedia charter. As an example, someone may contend that the president of the US is a terrorist but no wikipedia on earth will allow him to include this statement in the president's biography. The allegations made in this article are of serious nature and thus can't be included without a real proof

--Urdutext 23:25, 11 جولا‎ئی 2006 (UTC)

In fact I agree with you, that's why in the comments of my last edit I said that it will be improved slowly. I will try to add credible sources to support my claim and if I am not successful I will try to make this article as neutral as possible.

Searching for help articles in en.wikipedia is like mining for gold. Can you please give me the link to the policy that you are citing? I would like to study it again.

حیدر 11:02, 12 جولا‎ئی 2006 (UTC)

Here are the policy links: [1] [2] [3]

For the time it takes to sort out the issue, I am putting the "mushkook" sign on the article.

--Urdutext 23:18, 12 جولا‎ئی 2006 (UTC)

I actually appreciate that. I was surprised when this sign was removed in the first place.

Thanks for the links. I have already removed one low standard paragraph from the article.

حیدر 23:31, 12 جولا‎ئی 2006 (UTC) ٰ

Per wikipedia rules about bio's of living people, potentaially libelous material must be removed immediately (e.g., see [4]). The (saidan incident) section of this article is clearly libelous. Unless it can be sourced to real newspapers in its entirety, it has to be removed immediately. --Urdutext 23:30, 11 ستمبر 2006 (UTC)

The section on "Saidan incident" is being deleted.

--Urdutext 02:58, 17 ستمبر 2006 (UTC)

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